Basically, theres alsways going to be an issue with going out and overnight buying your reputation. @Hypnotoad107 Sony and MS are only funding those games. Don't get me wrong, I'll happily buy TES VI, Avowed and Fable for my Series X, but this PR spell that MS have over everyone right now has to fade at some point. Makes sense from a business point of view. We could be in for a heck of a generation here. @MS7000 In Pete Hines' defence, he was directly asked this question so had to say something. This is a rather remarkable time where you'll attempt to survive while also finding out what. But Sea of Thieves has been extremely successful, so its hard to fault them for it. Give it two to three more years when all those MS studios start pumping out games. It's not worth being so mad my guy. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Yes, it is unfortunate. When he talks he reminds me of the directors commentaries from season 8 of Game of Thrones. Original Story: Fallout 4 is coming to PS5, Bethesda has rather casually confirmed in a new blog post celebrating the series' 25th anniversary. Work has begunsort of @Dan_ozzzy189 what's the point of this comment? It was only good for the execs that got the big bucks from the buy. Im more worried about not playing another Obsidian game without buying a new laptop. Pushsquare can you stop going on about an Xbox studio now we get it!! @Shepherd_Tallon "the trick being to just play what you actually enjoy, and not whatever is in the top 10". If youre a big fan of stuff we make [and it] is no longer available on your platform, I totally understand if you are unhappy or p*ssed or whatever, he sympathised in a GameSpot interview. In our 9/10 review of the base game, IGN said: "An outstanding world, great crafting system, strong story and characters and more earn Fallout 4 a glowing endorsement.". I own all three major consoles and feel this is bad for me, even if I can buy/play game - I have GPU and I think the Bethesda deal sucks, Literally the first time its paid off for me to be married to someone who loves Halo. I've never been the biggest Bethesda fan to be honest. HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED. I havent decided which route Im going to go. This is good news kind of the whole competition being better 4 the consumer is true just look at gaming history 1 platform holder is always miles ahead the next gen that same platform becomes arrogant and anti consumer whilst the other bends over backwards 4 players. I mention Game Pass, but PSNOW is in that same boat for me too. I think third party developers are important for the industry and it's dangerous if one company has owns the majority of the industry. Gotta be a sectional, no doubt. I can understand Bethesda's hands being tied on this. Sony, MS and Nintendo have been buying outright/controlling stakes in developers for as long as they've been in the videogame industry. I personally don't play alot of multiplats and prefer single player but that's good to hear for people who do. Then again what's the difference with Ratchet and Clank, Spiderman, God of War? The developer didn't reveal a specific release date or window for Fallout 4's next-gen update, nor did it give a full list of features, but it will also likely include console-specific upgrades such as the use of PlayStation 5's haptic feedback. Bethesda Softworks announced Monday it plans to release a "next-gen update" for Fallout 4 in 2023, with improvements to the game designed for PlayStation 5, Windows PC, and Xbox Series X. Beyond that, we have The Elder Scrolls 6 to look forward to, but that game is even further out. A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. To any sony fanboy crying, think before you cry. Id never played the franchise before and honestly am obsessed and I was so sad when it was over. Im just saying, if Sony DID buy Bethesda, I sincerely dont believe the vast majority of people posting about it here would have a problem with it. I am sure people understand why Bethesda games are exclusive given they are now owned by Microsoft and if they don't, that is on them. @Shepherd_Tallon We have some true bangers that are only in the PS ecosystem and while it's unfortunate it won't be multi-plat on console, I think it's good that those players will have something to be proud of on their system in 1.5 years. its not even my most anticipated bethesda published game as ive really enjoyed what machine and id have been doing far more than bgs. Am I the only one who thinks his answer is honest and nice? Now, the game will never release on a PlayStation platform at all in fact, neither will Arkane Austins vampire-themed co-op shooter Redfall, or any other future Bethesda game. It may be the only "new" Fallout update for a while, at least officially, as Fallout 5 is likely years away as Bethesda won't release it until after the Elder Scrolls 6, which in turn is coming after 2023's Starfield. It is false and unfair to say that there is not creative passion behind Bethesda's games just because of the Microsoft acquisition. I just want people to stop pretending that every company isn't out for their own platform's success. In what way is that trash compared to what 90% of developers do on Switch? PlayStation players have been buying and playing Bethesda games for years, so of course there'll be some kind of response when those games no longer exist on PlayStation platforms. @Matt2018 Yep thats how it works and should work. 10yrs from now people could be asking, "what happened to the video game industry and where did things go wrong? Xbox only crew are happy coz all they care about is the war. Ridiculous statement. @middyone we still have the games with the most quality true for some tastes, not all. Fallout 3 Downloadable Content on PSN. But I don't think majority of PS owners will be willing to spend money for a second gaming system just to play Bethesda games. MS started the trend with COD. Simple as that, i dont care for console wars yet it does help push the tech. Arriving eight years after Fallout 4 was first released, the update includes a performance mode that allows for higher frame rates, a quality mode for 4K graphics, plus bug fixes and more Creation Club content (Bethesda's official mod support). It would of been better to say nothing in this case I think. You can rage against MS business practices yes but complain about the exclusivity of a title? I think then you shouldn't sell out if platform exclusivity sucks so bad but I get it. Directed by James Mangold, the movie also stars Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Antonio Banderas, John Rhys-Davies, Shaunette Renee Wilson, Thomas Kretschmann, Toby Jones, Boyd Holbrook, Oliver Richters, Ethann Isidore, and Mads Mikkelsen. @vapidwolf lol. It made business sense to both parties from that perspective. There is no point in going on about it. @Floki Oh yeah good correction I always forget they are owned by ZeniMax for some reason. Good games sell consoles. If theyre writing paychecks and letting studios make what they want, why would they leave? Building relationships with smaller developers whom don't have major IPs on other platforms is completely different and you know it. Their main seller was spiderman which was PS exclusive. I for one am grateful for the appology. I think MS just had enough. Ultimately, this listing hasn't resulted in anything more than five years later, but it could all be a clever bait and switch. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. My point wasnt that they only made 3rd person narrative games, but that only really in that genre could Sony claim to be the masters at the top. Definitely not because everyone has different tastes but I stress the majority say they have the best quality exclusives. Obviously everyone has different tastes but an huge majority agree with this statement. No Pete, I'm sorry that there are people who legitimately had the expectation Microsoft were actually going to keep your games multiplatform after literally buying you for more than Disney paid for Lucasfilm and Marvel combined, This is really funny considering Sony allegedly tried to pay for timed exclusivity on Starfield for PS5 as late as literally months before Microsoft stepped in. I could only do that if I was so stuck in the Xbox ecosystem I didnt want to give Sony any credit. 0 Not really to be honest..what i am bothered about is that this move by microsoft forces the gamers that want these new titles to spend more money on a new console then buy the games too or buy game pass so you can rent the game and then decide to purchase it..if microsoft really cared about the gamers they would never have orchestrated this scenario so to me it just looks as microsoft are just looking at the dollar/pound signs and from a business point of view thats soundfor gamers it really sucksand no i dont despise microsoft i just love my playstation more.. They will release less games and the budgets will be smaller. Now were supposed to be outraged that they have exclusives. The MLB thing is weird to me anyway, not sure why a baseball game was ever exclusive to Sony. Its just telling that the exact same people here who were massively upset about Sony games going to PC are having a mare about Bethesda games not coming to PS. so you can't believe the GT series or forza series is regarded as the top tier, cream of the crop. @CielloArc I think Switch support is still up in the air considering Microsoft and Nintendo have been pretty buddy-buddy as of late and there are a couple of Xbox Game Studios titles on Switch with the Ori duology, Bethesda has more autonomy than most of the Microsoft owned studios given they're still going to be self-publishing and remain as a seperate entity not entirely folded into Xbox's other studios unlike developers like Ninja Theory and Obsidian, so maybe Switch might have more of a future in terms of legacy ports rather than new games. That makes sense. Its how console business worked since day 1. Sony was trying to get an exclusivity window for Star Field like they already got for Final Fantasy 16. You have to build exclusives up from scratch, or if youre going to buy exclusivity, you can only do TIMED exclusivity. So the only way to play Fallout 3 or NV on PS5 is through the PlayStation Game Streaming service.So if anything it is worse then playing it on a PS3 as the game is still running on a PS3 then the video is streamed to your PS5. Exclusives are fine. Just making stuff up as they go along to fit the narrative. Point is - there are lots of types of games people enjoy and Sony studios are really only masters of a couple of them. Now that they have some everyone's pissed. @Hypnotoad107 Dont make up stuff mate timed is not fully exclusive. The xbox isn't a better platform now for having Bethesda exclusivity, it will have the same games it would have had anyway, it is only better by comparison for having made Nintendo and Playstation libraries worse. Ill check out starfield but im not anywhere near as excited for that as I am for GoW:R, H:FW, etc. Pay forever, own nothing. They should have built new IPs rather than stealing multiplatform ones. They can just drop cash as needed. The money talked lol. It is their choice why it is not exclusive. @TheFrenchiestFry. Starfield is the first Bethesda game that is set to release before Fallout 5, and luckily it's not far off. They have produced amazing games from 1985 - Present using only their own teams. They had that honor during the Xbox 360/PS3 era. I do feel bad for previous players of Bethesda games but having not been a big fan of them in the past, I'm not really surprised at this. Now ID did Doom and Wolfenstien and they were ported alot after floppy release on pc until bethesda took them over. Another group left Rare to form Playtonic and they made the underwhelming Yooka Laylee. I'd rather see them making games for Microsoft instead of not existing at all. If they'd bought single developers and gave them the time and money to make great games I'd have some respect for that. Bashing TES and Xbox gamers (which majority of Xbox owners own PlayStation so you're practically calling yourself stupid lol) just make you look sad tbh. Kena: Bridge of Spirits: What Are the Differences Between PS5 and PS4 Versions? Maybe Sony should go explore the industry to find out who is making the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic remake (Aspyr?) This game is clunky already you're just making it worse by trying to use a controller. Youre lying to yourself if you believe this message board would be filled with a bunch of upset PS fans after that acquisition. @playstation1995 This seems like a well thought out, reasonable post from an unbiased video game fan. Sony have the talent to make alternatives, they should do a Fallout alternative soon, Obsidian came back from a long break and knocked out the outer worlds which was at least as good as any Fallout game, Sony can do the same. Most of us with common sense were never fans of exclusives in the first place and kept our mouths shut instead of running around bragging. ", and I'd point to this acquisition a major turning point. @middyone My overall point wasnt that Sony only offers 3rd person narratives. @AK4tywill thats fair. I was planning on getting a Series S anyhow when the shortages die down. I am, off course, sad that I will not be able to play Starfield on PS5. Combining the horrific insanity of the Cold War era theory of mutually assured destruction gone terribly wrong, with the kitschy naivety of American 1950s nuclear propaganda, Fallout 3 will . Sometimes an acquisition can be beneficial though. That's it, end of. Not everything is black and white. Where whichever side you chose, you were missing out on some great games. I'll just get back to platinuming* Rift Apart now. Fallout 4 Gameplay (PS5 UHD) [4K30FPS]_____Gaming Consoles Specs: PlayStation 5 TV: Samsung QLED QE55Q6FN 4K Ultra HD Ca. I don't think Sony is any saint. Fallout 5 release window (Image credit: Bethesda) Again, it's unlikely we'll see a Fallout 5 release date anytime soon - but, with Fallout 5 confirmed, we can now at least speculate on its. With platformers, everyone knows Nintendo is king. @nessisonett Sure, you can look at it that way if you so choose, but I think it ignores a helluva lot of context. That is why there is no need for apologies. But they certainly have no reason to play by some set of imaginary rules that fans from the rival consoles make up. You're thinking of games like astro's playroom which is fantastic btw. I definitely would have picked it up for my PS5 after all the updates that it will need come out after it releases. Buying Bethesda was a sucker punch. Exactly rightsince I stopped fretting about my backlog and just played what I wanted, my gaming enjoyment has shot up! Microsoft didn't buy exclusives. In my opinion, it is the developers who deserves the credit the most for those exclusive games and not the company behind them. I for one will be getting both consoles somewhere down the line. Oh but Phil Spencer is beautiful and the Press loves him. As long as Microsoft doesnt buy Capcom, Team Ninja, and the Tomb Raider series, were good Todd. I think we're done with the "Playstation isn't getting these titles cause of Xbox exclusivity and Game Pass" articles, Push Square. That's it. Bet they didn't tell the market commission that they planned to stop selling the games to 80 million other users, This is good for gaming. I liked the E3 trailer for Starfield. @playstation1995 Im nearly positive he made this move to get more people into the Xbox ecosystem. But I guess by the times there's a new Doom, Fallout, Wolfenstein, etc people will be over it. SPIDER-MAN IS NOT A SONY CHARACTER. You can get a brand new series s and three months of gamespass for the price of four ps5 games (lol). Let's be honest though Bethesda's games in recent years haven't exactly been that good so to me personally I don't think anyone here who doesn't own the new Xbox is missing out on anything. Plus, it's a large cash cow for ZOS so getting rid of PS support would be cutting off a serious continuous revenue stream. @eshy76 Honestly, i don't think it was good for Bethesda. I wonder if Sony bought Bethesda how different this comment section would be. . We have all sorts of social issues and communities being denied their right to live, and we have predatory gaming industry practices, and even less scummy (but still scummy) practices like timed exclusives, yet it's a first party game being a first party exclusive that's triggering people. Sony has closed more studios than Xbox. I think that's pretty shoddy practice and really quite different to something like Uncharted which has only ever been on PS. I just respect sony a lot more. Its been simple logic for Sony since 1995. It is possible for a deal to make sense business-wise, but be bad consumer-wise and this is one of those. They got slaughtered last gen, saw Sony picking up these exclusives, and decided to do something about it. You have reached maximum wisdom - Platinum trophy unlocked! It applies to what he say.him and phil.they cant compete with PlayStation.so phil had to take games away fom PlayStation.when starfiel and elder scroll was supposed to come to PlayStation.both are liars.but i dont care if Bethesda cames come or not.i got to many games to play.but they acting like people dont know whats going on.playstation is still the g.o.a.t. And global marketing bigwig Pete Hines has apologised for the situation, although his comments come across more like a shrug to be honest this decision is ultimately way above his pay grade. I'm not upset with Bethesda, I understand why they did it. I mean there's people actively hoping for TES VI to be bad, rather than just buy it on a different platform and enjoy something they like How can people be so tribalistic about consoles and games I will never get . Buying entire publishers in monopolistic behavior. PS5, however, is another matter. And if you don't care about those Bethesda games, stop complaining. Of course, that ignores the fact that Bethesda could have fully supported xCloud prior to the acquisition and released on PlayStation platforms as well, but we appreciate he has to put a positive spin on it. It's such a weird situation because you have all these corporate types dancing around the issue and trying to be diplomatic to avoid just saying what's going on. The value of console is not determined by how many more units it sells than its competitors. The current-gen version will include a high frame . I can easily buy an Xbox, but almost don't want to out of principle. Microsoft could've seen how people were hyped for Starfield and decided to pounce and get out the ol' credit card lol. I enjoy changing up as well and I think nintendo is great but the reality is the majority of what they have are platformers and xbox doesn't offer anything on their own yet while they are providing all their games on pc. I finally got around to connecting my PS5 controller and ran the beta update on Steam but the controls are not correct. A few months later buys Zenimax and pulls all the multiplatform to GP. @TheRedComet Not interested in gaming on PC. 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