Just a total guess there, though, as Im sure the other factors previously mentioned certainly had a hand as well. But all three of those things ONLY happen if the rifle recoils rearwards. MSRP:$89.99. Congrats to Precision Armament for hanging onto the crown, and for coming up with such an incredibly effective brake in such a small, lightweight package! Any idea on when the next shoot out will be? Click on the image below for a printable PDF. It and the EPSILON are top notch choices for sure. You should have the vais muzzle brake on there. Sliding a plastic tray on a table is one thing, shooting is another. Yes, a muzzle brake or comp can try to compensate for typical rotational forces by directing gasses upwards and therefore driving the muzzle downwards. Am I the only one who regards AR-15 muzzle brakes as about as useless as tits on a boar. APA Gen II Little Bastard Finish:anodized Although we specialize . Material: 1144 stressproof steel Miller Precision Arms Hammerhead It may justslightly overcompensate for muzzle rise, driving the muzzle slightly downwards on my rifle, but with a different barrel length or less powerful ammo it could be spot-on. Failure to SCREW THE SUPPRESSOR ON THE BRAKE before locking the SR collar WILL CAUSE YOUR SUPPRESSOR TO . All stated weights and dimensions are as measured by me. I mean, does it produce decreased recoil with a can screwed on it? I have fired this upper receiver from rests at 100 yards countless times with various things on the muzzle and the M4-72s presence on it turns in as accurate of groups as anything Ive ever had on the muzzle. A lot of these are designed to be integrated with the suppressor but it would be nice to see these in the review as well to see how they compare independently. You guys couldnt even build the Merlin correctly. Thanks for the reply. Ooohh.. If you want the best forget the rest and get a Lantac. Some say that the .300 Blackout performs better (less recoil) with a enlargened .223 comp rather than using a .308 Win comp, because the .300 has gas volume more like the .223 than the .308. so I basically feel like it needs to be available for purchase online (maybe phone-only, but thats pushing it ) to be included. Length:2.43 hope that at least clarifies what the numbers are, but the point is just to show directly comparable numbers and it doesnt matter if theyre small numbers or large numbers or what since its a ratio.). The complex appearance of the baffle and port structure is really cool. We out it on a rifle that is used in 3gun. The BULLSEYE is available in 0.7, 0.75, 0.925, and 1.0 base diameters to best match your barrel. Interesting and excellent work. The Essential Accessory to Customize Your Rifle Started on 42 inches of concrete in an off-grid cabin, Ken Wittekiend started Witt Machine & Tool making four muzzle brakes a day. Have you seen the line up at Witt Machine? Also available in titanium. Length:2.55 They help reduce recoil and save weight on the rifle. Usually the boogeyman is muzzle rise (which I believe is usually just the natural byproduct of rearwards recoil energy anyway). Many of them work as mounts for suppressors and act as sacrificial blast baffles but, no, whether its a flash hider or a brake it really wont have any effect at all on recoil or flash hiding once the suppressor goes on. Add an s to the line maybe? Material: 1144 stressproof steel The machining is gorgeous. Nearly all of them are at TTAG HQ for use as reader prizes and giveaways (a lot have already been weekend photo caption contest prizes). MSRP:$89 (+$15 for Cerakote). those three all rank 27, and then the next one would be 30 which would probably be the *correct* way to do it. Our business is predicated upon the core values of integrity, trust and respect. Again though, recoil reduction is only one of many variables worth considering and how theyre each weighted is a matter of personal opinion and/or intended use when choosing which muzzle device will adorn ones rifle. I usually do work with the Remington 700 rifle for guys who shoot Fclass and big game hunters. 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Material: HTSR 416 stainless steel Lantacs Dragon muzzle brake (DGN556B) was the single most-requested brakefor Muzzle Brake Shootout #2. 2.As many Griffin Armament devices as possible (Flash comp, linear comp, hammer comp, compensating flash hider) Its not actually uncomfortable concussion that many or most brakes produce, though, its more of a blast of fast, hot air and maybe some carbon particles and such. Glue it in place. Also I have an AFAB-mini that I bought brand new and will back up Precision Armaments statement that it takes a bit of break-in. In the case of a rifle strapped solidly to a rest like you describe, I think a bare muzzle would show zero flex and any muzzle device that directs more gas up vs. down, or down vs. up, is going to cause flex. If they were all that close it would have been AWESOME. Best muzzle device review on the Web, btw!! Material: steel Fwiw, Ive run A2, AAC 51T blackout flash hider, AAC 51T b/o w brake, Miculek and BCM mod1 on 556 rifles. Finish:guessing nitride. My budget for purchasing brakes was gone before I got to it. MSRP:$159.95. Machining and finish are quite good. MSRP:$55. I noticed much more blast and concussion in the first few rounds than after that. Theres basically no information on CMMGs website about its SV Brakes beyond very effective muzzle brake, threaded 1/2-28. Looking at data from this and the last test, its recoil reduction performance was on par with most single chamber brakes. The dual-chamber Heartbreak and 3-chamber Standard Muzzle Brake (follows) greatly outperformed my recoil reduction expectations. I have a KAC MAMS showing up here in time for the flash hider test. b. The Cherry Bomb by Q is a Quickie Fast-Attach muzzle brake compatible with the THUNDER CHICKEN and trash PANDA silencers by Q.It features our taper mount shoulder to align with our barrels and silencers, uses a 1/2 inch socket on the front for easy install and removal, and features 360 circumferential ports to alleviate the need for timing and shims. We have taken the AR15 weapons system to a new level. If one company feels like reducing recoil by making a 20-lb muzzle brake, thats probably an effective way to reduce recoil so it belongs here. Ive put hundreds of rounds through this brake now as it has spent some time on my Tavor and AR-15, and its really fun to shoot with it on since the gun barely moves at all. My .308 ammo stash is actually looking pretty good at the moment, though, so it could happen later this summer maybe. Thunder Beast Arms Corporation [TBAC] Sound Suppressors * for Tactical, Sporting & Competition Use. MSRP:$99. The slow-mo footage for each device in the following video does show some noticeable differences in up/down muzzle movement as well as in flash, but this test was specifically designed only for measuring recoil rearward energy. Length:2.2 I ended up choosing the pws 556. Nope, you are not the only one! British Engineering? Product specific FAQs have not been added for this product. And need some advice on what to get. Material: stainless steel All accessory orders ship the same business day when ordered by 12PM CT. What makes the Nitrous unique, though, is that these holes are threaded, and the comp ships with 6 set screw jets allowing the end user to custom-tune downward force. If one gets a 1 and one gets a 0.5, the first one gives you twice the recoil reduction performance per dollar. If you could strip all of the gas from around and behind the bullet with a single baffle so the bullet goes through but all of the gas and pressure acts on one baffle, it would perform just as well as if it took 10 baffles to do the same job (I cannot scientifically prove this. (mathematically, a 50% reduction and $50 would be a factor of 1.0. I like to make data driven decisions, and I have a spreadsheet on every conceivable accessory I might need for my .308. Youll need a custom 24 pencil profile barrel. I cant imagine how frustrated everyone would be if a brake did incredibly well but cant be acquired haha. Please add Tromix Shark Brake to the next review. Bird Of Prey USA Bird of Prey Compensator: Right after the Ares Breath alphabetically is another brake thatsa bigdeviation from the norm. was really hoping to see the Rainier RAC and the Diamondhead T-BRAKE this go round if possible could you test those 2 and see how they compete. Length:2.125 Thunder Beast. Variable Port Recoil-reduction: Any tests with this? MSRP:$64. M4-72 and it reduces recoil very well. MSRP:$44.95. If theres a specific up side to the brake, then they all install the same way and you need to time it with the use of shims, varying thickness washer, a lock nut, etc. I have endorsements from many Navy Seals, my company is co owned by Larry Lasky the CEO of Froglube based in Wellington Nevada. in 2015 there are much smaller and lighter brakes that perform every bit as well, and most of them do so without the fanfare and the shock wave. The Thunder Beast 338 BA muzzle brake allows the quick and secure attachment of both the 338 Ultra and 338 BA silencers to the host rifle. A good review of it can be found here). SCAR 17 Muzzle Device Compatibility List. Anyone have stats on how the stag 3G compensator works on recoil in comparison to these? 2 models Battle Arms Development Adjustable Frictionless Trigger (5) $268.00 (Save $13.00) $255.00 Best Rated. $125.00. $101.05 $160.00. THUNDER BEAST CB MUZZLE BRAKE $ 125.00 THU223CB-BRK:1/2X28 Out of stock Want to be notified when this product is back in stock? In my humble and not-entirely-scientific opinion here: reducing rearwards recoil is the reduction in muzzle rise people actually want. Its good to see real comparative tests done by an independent reviewer. The new AFAB thats Advanced Flash Arresting Brake takes the old design to a slightly more extreme level, with deeper grooves and a baffle pattern inside the bore. A good comp does reduce recoil but ALSO is fast return to zero, consistent dot (or reticle) pattern and does not affect accuracy. Interesting muzzle brake test indeed. I must tell you that just for fun we installed this brake on a rifle that is used for bench rest. EDIT:This is the second test I did, but it hasnt been the last. Also I would like to see a Spikes Dynacomp 2 on the test. MSRP:$29.95. It comes with a lock nut to make timing it particularly simple, and at $58 MSRP its one of the lower-priced options in this roundup. Yes, Brakeout will be in the next FH test. Length:1.86 The MCS-4H cutrecoil energy by ~55% vs. the bare muzzle, and limits blast and concussion for the shooter by angling the baffles forwards (I think this slightly hurts ultimate recoil reduction though). Would that mean a comp with 45% would take it to 5%? As fun as blast, fire, and concussion may be and they are! Its a good unit. The machining and the finish are clean and the steel has a quality feel. f. In an abundance of caution we have added anti-tamper features to restrict the ability of one to misuse this product. It is a relatively small brake, and I thought including a compact brake like this would help us understand how size plays into . I couldnt get through to them to see if they would be willing to donate or loan one for the test, and the budget for purchasing various brakes went from most-requested on down and the bastard series didnt make the cut before the budget ran dry. That shootout, like this one, pitted them against each other in a sled test to see which reduced rearwards recoil energy the most. With nothing on the muzzle, it slid back an average of 8.8438 inches. I figured Ares Armor was going to poke the ATF in the eye again haha. Diameter(at largest point): 0.86 You could use that to rank them by performance per ounce of weight, or do whatever else might make sense. Enable Accessibility. M4SD is here so itll be in the upcoming flash hider test and in muzzle brake test #3 eventually. APA Gen II Little Bastard Material: its freakin aluminum Its even more pleasant from behind the rifle with this on than with an A2 birdcage or a bare muzzle. With the M4-72 on the muzzle, the test rig slid back an average of 2.3438 inches. . Compare Compare Items. Next shootout should be a 7.6239 brake/comp. Therefore it is our mission to treat everyone who comes through our door as a customer for life. Diameter(at largest point): 0.8 Notify me Specifications Category Class III Condition New Related products SILENCERCO OSPREY MICRO $ SILENCERCO OCTANE 9 HD $ 619.00 SILENCERCO 9 OSPREY $ 850.00 Q PLAN-B SAKER SUPRESSOR MOUNT $ 149.95 Reviews Machining is clean, finish is okay (average parkerizing). 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