I wound up with more than a dozen powders to test, Remington's .25-06 is likely most responsible for killing the .257 Roberts, as the .25-06 offers an average 200 feet per second (fps) additional velocity over the Roberts . Most shooters can accurately shoot a 243 out to about 300 yards. The wildcat became the .25 Roberts, honoring its lead developer, Maj. Ned H. Roberts, a well-known outdoor writer and experimenter. A nearly 6-degree difference in shoulder angle should complicate, if not prevent, chambering and firing commercial ammo in the wildcat chamber. Like its parent 7mm Mauser, it is well behaved, saving its surprises for the deer in its path. load falls 25 yards short of its MPBR. The Roberts experienced a unique transformation in 1974. The latest one, a MKII, will do this with a 100 gr Partition and 45 grains of IMR 4350; action bedded and barrel floated. Some hunters may find that the 257 Roberts cartridge is an ideal round for medium to large game, while others may prefer a different caliber for these purposes. Both calibers are incredibly popular with hunters, and there are pros and cons to each. MV (24 inch barrel). This capability is important in ways I will demonstrate. The sizing Why was the Roberts originally loaded down to .250 Savage pressures? In Speers lab we saw a velocity increase of from 90 to 150 fps over non-+P pressures using a 115-grain bullet. Phil Sharpe seemed to favor the .257 Roberts and IMR-4064 powder with a A short time later, Winchester chambered the See The G&S Online Rifle Cartridge Killing Power Formula: Implications and Applications and Determining the Effective Killing Range of Rifle Cartridges for fuller discussion of the killing power formula and effective killing range concepts. For a performance comparison, lets put current .257 Roberts +P handloads next to its more modern challenger, the .25-06 Remington (1969). (20 inch barrel), ME 1862 ft. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. I have a tang safety M77 in the Roberts, and mine is very accurate. In August of 1964, Guns & Ammo published a cover story detailing what the magazines editors enthusiastically dubbed the worlds hottest .22! The wildcat cartridge could launch a 15-grain bullet an astounding 6585 feet-per-second (fps), over twice as fast as a .30-06 Springfield and six times as fast as a .22 LR. I said at the outset that the .257 Roberts did not deserve to be shoved into obscurity. For the record, every (20 inch barrel), ME 2103 ft. Since we have looked at the short answer, we can look in depth at each cartridge like . As a result, I could not find .257 Roberts factory loads anywhere, and neither did my contacts at ammunition companies have any stock on hand. experimenting that existing powders of the day would perform much This Model 70, along with most rifles chambered for the .257 Bob, are made with 22-inch barrels. Then, in 1934, Remington took interest. Examples include Remington, Winchester, Savage, Kimber, Ruger and several others. In discussions about the Roberts, the one theme I seem to hear repeatedly is that this classic is too slow. some bullets grouped better than others, and most loads were accurate Not every hunter feels comfortable purchasing a used firearm and not every hunter has the cash to build a custom one. While I personally would choose a heavier bullet weight for hunting deer, I know several hunters that use this bullet on coyotes and mule deer with great success. Just remember that at those distances, even the smallest mistake can mean missing your target entirely. This was 1346 ft. lbs. It is a shame that Remington did not specify the .257 Roberts for a MAP of 50,000 CUP in the first place. Since the Roberts has been around for quite a while, once-fired brass Chuck Hawks and the Guns and Shooting Online staff recently did a review of the Henry Long Ranger. The companys first rifle was the It balances between the hands and points naturally. Winchester does not presently list Barrel rifling diameter, from which calibers derive their designations, is 0.250 in or 6.35 mm. bullets were seated to the recommended overall loaded length of 2.780 Hornady 117-grain Spire Point bullets loaded over 42.0 grains of H-4350 Some hunters believe that the 257 Roberts cartridge provides an excellent balance of power and accuracy, making it suitable for a variety of hunting applications. But what is it compared to other popular cartridges? The most common bullet weights are 87 and 100 grains. I surmise that development of the +P cartridge variant was an attempt to boost performance of the cartridge to velocity levels that would look better against the fast .243s. Modern .25-caliber 100-grain hunting bullets are a great choice. The .257 Roberts cartridge does not deserve to be shoved into obscurity. The hottest commercial .243 Winchester load I can find is quoted as driving a 100 grain bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 3120 f.p.s. : 2.535" Powder: 41.0 gr 43.7 gr Vel. These cartridges were highly touted by Warren Page, the Shooting Editor at Field & Stream magazine, and appeared to be ballistically superior to the .257 Roberts. This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. Most . Loaded with 87 grain and lighter bullets, it serves well for dispatching large varmints and small predators. The EKR of the load above is at the MPBR range (265 yards), because the KPS value of 15.9 at 265 yards is greater than the baseline KPS of 15 and I never recommend shooting at a game animal beyond the MPBR of the cartridge and load. It was developed by gun writer and experimenter N.H Roberts in the 1920s and 30s, so its not a stretch to assume the cartridge has been around for nearly 100 years. I experimented with calculating HITS values for other ranges and impact velocities for several cartridge loads, but quickly discovered that the resulting scores followed an erratic pattern and in some cases did not make sense. However, many rifles will permit handloaders to seat bullets to longer overall lengths to increase accuracy. For this project, I explored many I did not have the opportunity to try Select handloads reached over 2,900 fps and groups were very good from the Ruger rifle. Several big deer statesincluding Michigan, Ohio, Iowa, and Indianahave passed laws in the last five years allowing straight-wall cartridges in zones previously designated as shotgun- or muzzleloader-only. I do this because I do not endorse shooting at game animals at ranges beyond the MPBR of the load in question. I like them for other reasons, and some get lucky, but a person shouldn't expect it. However, before Henry could justify offering the Long Ranger in .257 Roberts, they would have to be convinced that hunters would buy it. 1. Roberts spent on this one.. lbs., MPBR = 300 yards (Zero at 255 yards). is 5.8 inches, a 1.25-inch difference. summer woodchucks to bigger game out West, I found this cartridge (22 inch barrel). My future generations may not be interested in reloading to maximize the accuracy on this gun. grains for a velocity of around 3,400 fps. ), SD .226, A = .0745 sq. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. This translates to an effective killing range of 175 to 180 yards. Around 1909 they completed the project with All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Back in the 1980s, a press release showed that Remington cataloged the .25 Roberts in its 1935 price list, but the 1936 price list shows the name changed to .257 Remington-Roberts. The name morphed again somewhere between 1943 and 1945; the 1946 catalog shows the name that stuck: .257 Roberts. . Note that the EKR of the .243 Win. It is also a popular choice for long-range target shooting. This rifle has been in my collection for decades and has proven accurate, and neither is it finicky in regard to loads and bullets that shoot well. Once again, here is the strongest .257 Roberts factory load, as detailed above. It's not a small game cartridge and it's not a dangerous game cartridge. According to P.O. The hottest .243 Winchester factory load I was able to identify for the article The .243 Winchester: Its Capabilities as a Deer Cartridge specs out as follows. In a short action, it has the potential for a suitable youth rifle but without care towards optimizing hand loads, can lack the power with many 117 to 120 grain loads to be of any great advantage over the more common .243. He explained that his fathers age is catching up with him, and he knows hell soon need a rifle with softer recoil. My Son recently bought a Kimber 84M Select Classic .257 Roberts that has been sub MOA with every load we've tried. Although loading a 257Rob +p may narrow the gap Super hipster now is the 25 Creedmoor Mar 31, 2020 #3 cahunter805 Well-known member Joined May 27, 2014 Messages 2,363 The .257 Roberts was designed in the 1920s when wildcatter Ned Roberts started to do experiments on the .257 caliber cartridges. commercialization in the same year. Have a friend, bought a ruger.. in 257 roberts. As a matter of note, It's not a screamer and it's not a slowpoke. (Hornady HITS is explained in the Appendix.). Many handloads easily duplicate the velocities of +P factory loads, while others can surpass those velocities by over 200 fps while staying within industry pressure guidelines. If that roberts is an early one, I would bet it is in the barrel where the problem is. history in cartridge development. One of my favorites. With these higher-pressure cartridges, the .257 Roberts can push a 117- or 120-grain boattail bullet about 2,800 fps, which allows it to step up to larger animals like elk and caribou at moderate distances. Benchmark and H-335 were neck and neck, with IMR-4895 following suit. The cartridge is also capable of taking down large game animals such as elk and moose. (The cross-sectional area of a .257 inch diameter bullet is 0.0519 sq. ), 100 yard KPS = 23.2 (Energy = 1771 ft. Joseph VonBenedikt is with Joel Hodgdon to talk about the improved accuracy and long-range potential of the already reliable Core-Lokt ammo line. Well, okay, The 243 Winchester is also relatively inexpensive, making it a great option for budget-minded hunters. Redding 257 Roberts Neck Sizer Die Neck Sizing Dies is a special resizing die that leaves the cartridge body fire-formed and only resizes the case neck. If youre looking for something with even more power, the 264 Winchester Magnum is a great choice. Firearms experimenter Ned H. Roberts created what was to become the .257 Roberts commercial cartridge during the mid-1920s. If youre looking for an all-around hunting rifle that wont break the bank, the 257 Roberts is a great option. Properly -tailored handloads will group under .75 inch. Longtime gun writer Gary Zinn echoes Kiffs praise with a 3,000-word defense of the .257 inan article on Chuck Hawks website. Other discontinued firearms from Ruger and Winchester can still be found new in the box, but those are getting rarer. The 243 Roberts is a great cartridge for deer hunting. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. For several years he played with them. The rifle was a Winchester XTR Featherweight that became available I did some estimates of recoil with the heavy hunting loads I have featured. To my knowledge, the only currently available .257 Roberts production rifle is the Kimber 84M Hunter bolt gun. Functionally, ammomakers slightly beefed-up the Roberts case walls near the head. velocity was increased by roughly 130 fps and 100 fps, respectively. The only other significant option for anyone wanting a new rifle chambered for the cartridge is to order a semi-custom Shaw Mark VII bolt action. Accurate description. Access the newest seasons of MeatEater, save content, and join in discussions with the Crew and others in the MeatEater community. Velocity is important to the extent that it imparts kinetic energy to a bullet of given size and weight. All I will say is that anyone who has a .257 Roberts rifle of early vintage should have a competent gunsmith check it out before shooting +P ammo. Cases were full-length sized, weight sorted and flash holes were uniformed. It is a very capable cartridge for hunting medium sized Class 2 game when loaded with 115 - 120 grain bullets. I am a lifetime deer hunter and have used bolt, lever and pump action rifles. (22 inch bbl. In addition to easily outperforming the landmark .250/3000 Savage cartridge, the first U.S. round to exceed 3,000 feet per second (fps), it illustrated unusual versatility and accuracy. Ned Roberts of New Hampshire was the other part, and in fact was the deciding factor of a host cartridge later to bear his name. Incidentally, data developed with spherical powders should not be reduced below their starting charge weights, or erratic ignition and pressures can occur. One hundred-grain bullets from Hornady, Swift, Nosler and Ruger's No. The 257 Roberts is a great little cartridge and with the 110 gr. . .243 Win. This rifle needs handloading and will get it! It burns roughly about 8 to 10 percent more powder to increase velocity around 5 percent. The Roberts offers no real handloading challenges. Hunters, in turn, would need to be convinced that the .257 Roberts cartridge delivers performance in the field that surpasses the .243 Winchester, which is already being offered in the Long Ranger rifle. Bullet velocity is not neglected, because velocity is the most important factor in calculating kinetic energy. shoulder angle. My grandfather built me a .257 Roberts as my first deer rifle and started my love affair with this cartridge long ago, California hunter John Smith told MeatEater. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. My dad eats, sleeps, and poops deer hunting, Zellers said. Fi. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. of the Model 70. While it is still a great dual-purpose cartridge, it has found most favor with deer hunters wanting a pleasant shooting, accurate and reliable cartridge. lbs. It should be noted that when using top performing powder measures such as Reddings Competition Precision Riflemans PR-50, many extruded powders can be thrown accurately. Try the old Roberts bullet. The Roberts combines that solid ballistic performance with feather-light recoil. Its trigger load was dropped from a RCBS powder measure just short of the target Our Sitemap. The Roberts launched the heavier bullets about 165 fps (7 percent) slower. This makes it a good choice for hunters who want to be sure that their prey will be quickly and humanely killed. bullets. The result means that the KPS of the load in question will be equal to 15.0 at the range where the energy of the bullet falls to 1339 ft. lbs. Understand that the few commercial cartridge brands and loads currently available are loaded to pressures approaching the +P limit and modern rifles can handle those pressures without difficulty. HITS scores at 100 yards for the .257 loads are 718 (Load #1), 773 (Load #2) and 772 (Load #3). Its not a screamer and its not a slowpoke. Judging from how the Speer phone lines lit up with Roberts reloading questions, those rifles must have sold well. 5.0. 1 in .257. The UL version of the ruger. Load #3 features a 120 grain bullet, the heaviest hunting bullet loaded in the Roberts. The 87 grain bullet is a good choice for varmint hunting, while the 100 grain bullet is a better choice for deer hunting. A friend of mine has had 3 different .257 Roberts, 2 standard and 1 Ackley version. This makes it a good choice for hunters who want to take game at long range, or for target shooters who want to compete at long distances. casually mentioned the Roberts was on the way out. In 1934, Remington Arms showed interest in the cartridge, changed the case capacity of roughly 53.0 grains of water, many modern powders work The Roberts isnota puny quarter-bore cartridge!, Frank C. Barnes, author of the classic Cartridges of the World, agrees that the .257 Roberts is one of the most useful rifle cartridges ever developed.. Whenever a load has a KPS = 15 range that is longer than its MPBR, I call the EKR of the load as being equal to its MPBR range. Built with a 20 inch barrel, this rifle/caliber combination could become a hit with knowledgable hunters and Henry would own the .257 Roberts rifle market. Maybe it was concern over chamber variations in custom guns. A 257 Roberts is a very fast round. Those who reflect on the decline of the .257 Roberts as a significant heavy varmint and light big game cartridge almost always credit (or blame) the .243 Winchester. All handloads were developed using Winchester +P cases, which due to their thicker case wall construction have less capacity than standard pressure cases. With bullets weighing 115 to 120 grains, I found seven data points where the same propellant was tested in both cartridges. Whenever any of these variables change, the KPS number changes proportionally. What if .243 Winchester hunting loads with different bullet weights are considered? Remington produced the Roberts with three bullet weights derived from other cartridges. Maximum overall cartridge length for the .257 Roberts is 2.780 inches. load, detailed above, is 694. However, the .257 also worked well with heavier bullets designed for hunting big game. The action is extremely strong. This is the first time I have seen someone suggesting the Bob is inherently inaccurate, but I have seen pot shots at the Rugers. the 7mm Mauser case necked down to .25 caliber complete with a 15-degree I concluded that the HITS system is useful only for the purpose of verifying the size/type of game for which a given cartridge and load is best suited. However, for milder cartridges, such as the .30-30 Winchester, there are range limits beyond which the effectiveness of vital area hits become questionable. I for one limit my long-range shooting to 300 Simply put, the .257 Roberts +P is simply the original commercial cartridge loaded to higher pressure (50,000 CUP), which reloaders with strong rifles had been doing all along. Recoil is moderate, ammo is (usually) available, and new and used firearms are still chambered in the old wildcat. -Editor). During the 1980s, Winchester developed a .257 Roberts +P load that featured thicker case walls and was loaded to a maximum average pressure of 50,000 CUP, which bumped the velocity of the 117-grain bullet to 2,780 fps. Over years of using the Roberts on game from to that of the .30-40 Krag. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!. Evaluating the killing power of a hunting bullet must be a more sophisticated exercise than simply comparing the muzzle velocities of different cartridge/load combinations. For comparison, the .30-06 has a MAP of 60,000 psi. It became quite popular; however, just 21 years after being officially introduced, the .243 Winchester appeared and competed very effectively as a dual-purpose cartridge and ultimately became more popular. | It was freaky accurate with Winchester 117g round nose loads. However, the .243 Winchester cannot match the .257 Roberts as a big game cartridge, although the .243 is arguably a more efficient heavy varmint round. The total increase in capacity is about 4 to 5 grains, depending on which brand of case is used. Straight-wall cartridges are surging in the whitetail world. Its a perfect all-around gun, Kiff said. In 1974, The Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI) established a +P designation for cartridges that are loaded to higher pressures, but specifications still had to be approved by SAAMI. The quarter-bore was fashionable due to fine game performance demonstrated by the .250 Savage. I load Nosler bullets at 100grn, 110grn, 115grn and 120grn slugs and get good accuracy with all weights. For a while, Ruger chambered The .257 Roberts first became available to hunters nationwide when Remington took the wildcat into factory production in 1934. In naming the cartridge, Remington gave proper credit to its inventor by calling it the .257 Roberts. It remains a popular choice among hunters and shooters alike. With most suitable powder charges for the Roberts containing around 35.0 to 45.0 grains and only a couple of loads exceed 50.0 grains, standard non-magnum primers offer reliable ignition with extruded and spherical powders. Roberts went to work while considering Manns views on the subject. So if you are looking for a fast, versatile round that can handle anything you throw at it, the 257 Roberts should be at the top of your list. Handloaded with 85- to 90-grain varmint bullets, the Roberts is as comfortable shooting spring varmints as it is hunting deer. I rest my case that the .257 Roberts is the more powerful of the two cartridges for hunting deer and similar Class 2 game. Remingtons .25 Remington cartridge (1906) was badly outclassed in 1915 by the popular .250 Savage. I believe this would be a great rifle/cartridge package for hunting deer, pronghorn and similar game. We have a gun show in Charlotte this weekend, and I was planning on taking a NIB .243 Ruger M77 to the show in hopes of trading it on a .257 Roberts. Will have to check on twist. I once owned two different Rugers in .257 RBTS, the first a M77, the second a M77MKII. of Hercules Powder Company. have him try free floating the barrel. This accuracy situtation with the Bob has me reconsidering doing this. The .257 Roberts fell out of favor and has never regained market position versus the .243 Winchester. I knew several people in the Dallas area who proclaimed the .257 Improved the perfect Texas deer cartridge. According to the history Ive read, Roberts worked with F.J. Sage on The Nosler 85-grain Ballistic Tip is another great choice that reached nearly 3,300 fps using Winchester 760 powder and was likewise accurate. Accuracy was around an inch; good enough to get my buck at just under 250 yards. It is also noteworthy that monolithic bullets heavier than 100 grains, such as the Barnes 115-grain Triple Shock X-Bullet, will require barrels with a faster twist than the standard 1:10 that is standard on most guns chambered in .257. But if you are willing to put in the extra effort, the rewards are definitely worth it. ), 275 yard KPS = 16.9 (Energy = 1292 ft. The effective killing range numbers for these two loads suggest that they are equal. So, which one is the best? The current SAAMI spec for the .257 Roberts Maximum Average Pressure (MAP) is 54,000 psi. Bob, as it is often affectionately called, was truly a dual-purpose cartridge that did both jobs very well. Interlock RN, MV 2350 f.p.s. The final form of the .25 Roberts was only slightly changed from the 7mm Mauser. The shooter wanting flexibility needs to handload to experience the real Bob.. It appears that some rifles chambered in .257 Roberts can be very picky about bullet weight/configuration. list. 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