It was the first time Id been truly happy creatively since I was a teenager., Or at least thats one part of the story. That behaviour is tied to the darkest points of his addiction and Saul was very, very candid with me. A feast of snakes by Harry Crews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Feast_of_Snakes, 6. And sometimes thats something I can really dig into and make a use out of, like literally make a song and dance out of it, and sometimes you feel kind of homeless. [4], On 10 March 2014, Fat White Family issued their first single, "Touch the Leather", on Hate Hate Hate Records. Ingrid Marie Jensen is a member of New South Story Lab. What are you going to do? Next was the single "I Am Mark E Smith" (referencing singer Mark E. Smith of the Fall), released 15 December 2014.[7]. Under no circumstances would I ever willfully agree to that. Lias Saoudi is the frontman of rock bands Fat White Family and the Moonlandingz. It was only ever really going go one way to a certain extent, which was complete anti-authoritarianism. It was like Elvis, everyone could agree on that up to a point and then suddenly we could no longer agree on Michael. Its not a power that can actually be taken away from somebody. I didnt have to consult with [bandmates] Saul [Adamczewski, lead guitarist] or Nathan [Saoudi, keyboard player and Lias brother], I didnt have to deal with hype. You dont want to be in the middle of the countryside with just a dog, do you? You can run too far without your own self-mythologizing. And a birthday shout-out (in cartoon form) to . They met up sporadically, about once every month or two. Nor does Saoudi, who turns 36 next month but certainly hasnt softened. Retrieved 7 May 2021. Its really hard to find that place again once its got some kudos, then youre suddenly in this hall of mirrors of anxiety and expectation. Im very proud of that background. The two years that its taken to pen Ten Thousand Apologies with Adelle Stripe I now refer to as the great silence. And it doesnt matter which part of the media spectrum you go to, theyre all trying to crank it up to the max, so they can raise their heads above the parapet, above the din. That would be totally impossible. It was really packed at the front and they came out and started doing Song 2 and the place went fucking mental. They were musical geniuses. He holed up at a . I certainly wouldnt vote for him., Saoudi performing with Fat White Family in 2019. The band released Fat Whites/Taman Shud, a split EP with Taman Shud, on 11 December 2013 on Trashmouth. Like, How can we fuck everybody off?. I wouldnt ever listen to Blur now but at the time there was a kind of melancholy about it. Humanitarian man of letters? Why? FWF frontman revisits his 16-year-old self for our latest Sweet 16 column. Guideline Price: 20. It should be dirtier, it should be harsher., It is hard to imagine how it could be. Anybody, regardless of who you are, if you are addicted to heroin and crack, and you are living in a crack house, you are not going to behave in a way that is palatable. Saoudi, on the other hand, tells me that, generally speaking, Saul was kind of like, nah, it should be worse. Lias Kaci Saoudi is a writer, artist and musician, and the front man of genre-bending iconoclasts Fat White Family. [3], They released their debut album, Champagne Holocaust, in 2013, on UK label Trashmouth Records. Gift them a month or a full year. Hes at liberty to capitulate if he likes, says Saoudi, who uses the word in Fat White Family song Feet. All that carry on, for me, is circumstantial and social. What are you supposed to do? The histories relate quite closely. Are you going to take Caravaggio off the wall because he killed a bloke? We were dedicated to that. Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi, Paranoid London's Quinn Whalley, and Trashmouth Records' Luke and Liam May discuss their sleazy, seedy new project Decius. PKM: Concerning COVID-19 and live music: So much of that lifestyle is dependent on being in very close contact. We (Fat White Family) were planning on starting tracking stuff this month. Do the gig, get in the van, go to the studio, do the album there was never any time for any kind of perspective. A collection of domestic objects rendered in papier-mche in The grid. Lias Saoudi: Yeah, the kind of shit Neil Youngs always singing about. Happy birthday Yayoi See Yayoi's biggest gallery exhibition yet opening May 12th at . In exciting news for fans, it has been announced that a new book about Fat White Family is on the way. I think thats something Id like to move away from: monotone rage and anger. Macbeth followed it in November. Yesterday (22 September), Saoudi posted an essay on The Social clarifying his opinion on IDLES. It was on The Big Breakfast, remember that? Saul was extremely controlling in lots of ways. I associate that accent with my mum, so theres an inherent innocence to all the characters that makes it absolutely visceral. Dance music can be quite conservative, Liam continues. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Drugs, alcohol and ego almost tore Britains most provocative band apart, as a no-holds-barred memoir of the group reveals. Its me, Eddie by Eddie Limonov https://literaryreview.co.uk/its-me-eddie, 2. I guess by [the standards of] a normal persons life I was definitely a junkie as well. Theres every kind of sentiment to be explored. B orn in Southampton to an Algerian father and a Yorkshire coalminer mother, Lias Saoudi grew up in Scotland and Northern Ireland before studying at London's Slade School of Fine Art. It was just the most fulfilling thing. Theres no deeper concept behind them and no deliberate provocation, they insist other than doing just that. This is the definitive account of Fat White Family's disgraceful and . Theres no limit to how much that kind of technology could be abused. Loyal to the core! ", In response to Talbot's comments about nearly driving to London to find Saoudi, the Fat White Family added, "If Joe wants to get in his car and drive to London to mete out some form of rough justice on account of my expressing my opinion about his group thats fine with me. ", "In a way Im grateful to the band IDLES," Saoudi continued. How can you tell these people not to get out and protest? I want to morph into a writer at some point, like at age 40. The Grass Arena by John Healy https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/05/biography, 5. Born to a British mother and Algerian father, he grew up in the Republic of Ireland, Scotland and Northern Ireland, before moving to London and gaining a Fine Art degree from Slade School of Art. The magic mushrooms Lias was using to calm pre-show anxiety at the time had not arrived as hed planned, so he broke his own code to never take cocaine before a gig. Ratfucker by Armand Schaubroek https://trouserpress.com/reviews/armand-schaubroeck-steals/. Their grudges, not my grudges. You see whats happening now with mass protests, and its like so, say we all went in a tracing app, and we all had to sign up to it, but then anybody that goes out on a protest is suddenly biologically invalidated from going to a pop concert, or eating in a nice restaurant, or taking a train somewhere. A self-professed humanitarian, Lias rejects the nihilist label, but he's got no problem talking drugs, art, politics . It did not go quite as planned. Thats almost like having a chip implanted in you. I can count the times Ive gone to pick up heroin on the street, like, on two hands.. The South London band has been hailed as Sweary, scary and willfully offensive (The Irish Times); a lens through which contemporary life is exposed, investigated and celebrated (Domino Records) andthe sonic equivalent of society coming unhinged (Rolling Stone). You need all of your focus for that. LOUD AND QUIET 2023. Well kill it before it grows!, Decius' debut album Decius Vol I is released on May 13 via Decius Trax. [6] Pledgers were given the self-released EP Crippled B-Sides and Inconsequential Rarities. Please whitelist our site in order to continue to access The Quietus. All the action from Coachella 2023 weekend one in dazzling photos, Solar and Moonbyul on the creation of MAMAMOO+: It was a road we had to achieve at some point, Evil Dead Rise: inside the years scariest horror film, Triviums Matt Heafy talks loving Call Of Duty and Final Fantasy in Playback, Nicholas Hoult: Skins captured that moment Euphoria captures it now. Saodi added, "When you grow up economically oppressed in a world which offers you ever diminishing prospects, a world where violence and abuse are the norm, sooner or later the hopelessness of it all has a fairly good chance of morphing into hatred: labelling these people scum isnt progressive, its decadent. The second surprise is his appearance. Cabin fever set in long ago, and hes considering going down to Margate to search for a new home base. I dont know. People talk about a blue pill and a red pill, he says. Last year, Sleaford Mods and Fat White Family voiced their issues about IDLES, with Sleaford Mods' Jason Williamson writing that they were "appropriating, to a certain degree, a working class voice", while Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi described the band as "self neutering middle class boobs". John and Luke celebrate tQ's fourteenth birthday with a selection of their cultural highlights this month. Last time I saw him it was complete shithouse, he has a rep for shithouse live gigs which hes carefully cultivated for about 30 years. That kind of lifestyle is underrated. I dont think that things are going pan out as drastically kind of awfully as it feels like they will right now. [Laughs] That was such a terrible move.Was it Shartic Monkeys?". The minute lockdown started to get eased in London, the old devils crept back in. I went to a Protestant school as a result. Lias choice of clothing in U Instead Of Thought might cross one boundary too many for some, however. Youre crashing on couches, youre in vans, youre in planes, and with the new social distancing requirements that kind of work is going to be so different. It was just this completely nightmarish situation.. Limits to Medicine by Ivan Illich https://joannamoncrieff.com/2016/04/18/limits-to-medicine-re-visiting-ivan-illich/, 3. I went to this gig last October. "On my radar: Lias Saoudi's cultural highlights". What if it is personal to you? It was a club, everyone was super hip, it wasnt my patch. It baffles me that people go out and do that for pleasure at those big gigs., The line about anal sex and I love the one about take the only tree thats left and stick it up the hole in your culture, I love the meanness of that. PKM: You were at one of the Black Lives Matter protests in London a few days ago. Trashmouths HQ in South London became a space for no-judgement experimentation. Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi says Idles 'represent everything that is wrong with contemporary cultural politics.' Idles Are Feuding With UK Band Fat White Family About Social Issues Music The band were surprised, they say, when some people they showed it to were concerned about their choice of imagery. Once all that was gone, I had no hankering.". Fat White Family are an English rock band, formed in 2011 in Peckham, South London. This is a band that purports to be about unity and zero tolerance of prejudice of any kind, yet feels it necessary to pour scorn on anyone that comes from a small town that hasnt quite managed to adopt the same middle class metropolitan point of view they call their own. PKM: Absolutely. They decided to bring Lias in, whose perspective as an outsider was valuable. If I could get back into that headspace I was in at the Berghain when I was doing the indie band onstage, where its not about anything other than expressing yourself in whatever freakish way it occurs to you in that moment, that would be a nice thing to import. I was kind of like, almost angry and bitter at it when it first kicked off, in a way. I think Saul is back on Friday to London. Like Lias, the Mays know the stresses of brotherhood in music. Sitting watching TV, I remember the video came up. How was the show, apart from being in-the-raw and in-your-face? Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Photo courtesy of Lias Saoudi. To find out more, click here. [Heroin] was never the one for me. To begin reading his Bakers Dozen, click the image of him below. When youve got a new project, theres that sweet spot at the beginning when everythings just for your own amusement. Lead singer of Fat White Family, Lias Saoudi, self-pens a Bakers Dozen of thirteen musical choices that map his early life to the present day, from Ireland to Scotland, Cambodia to Algeria, via dark country and the howling void. Hes a historical figure that time is about to extinguish, reflecting back on all of that musical history. We shouldnt go outside. But it turned out he didnt say it because he genuinely cared for the safety of the band, he said it because he had arranged to meet his dealer. ", IDLES' vocalist Joe Talbot talked about those comments in an interview with The Guardian earlier this month, "Im not virtue signalling, Im not hiding behind any sort of surrealist bullshit. PKM: It seems like another way for the government to track you. I was so terrified I was gonna get crushed, I was this little dude getting thrown around, it was horrible. It was the only thing I used to whinge about; the constant Dylan. That was the main sentiment running through it. Then we all got Covid. "All that carry on, for me, is circumstantial and social. Fat White Familys Lias Saoudi, Paranoid Londons Quinn Whalley, and Trashmouth Records Luke and Liam May discuss their sleazy, seedy new project Decius, In 2013 Lias Saoudi, who was then laying low in Berlin after the recording of his band Fat White Familys debut album Champagne Holocaust, went out to Berghain. Then its Guantanamo-style flagellations [doing the video]. Why not? To have such intricate writing these days, in an online essay, is so rare, because people get to the point so quickly and cut things down so sparsely, and the kind of writing I like to read best is pretty much the style you have. I think thats something really special. Co-edited by Gillian McCain and Legs McNeil, the authors of, The Knack had an amazing sound. 1', Music Of The Month: The Best Albums And Tracks Of October 2022, Songs At The End Of The World: An Interview With HMLTD, tQ's Exclusive Monthly Round-Up Playlist: March 2023, Music Of The Month: The Best Albums And Tracks Of March 2023, tQ's Exclusive Monthly Round-Up Playlist: February 2023, Love Songs And Monster Songs: Jad Fair's Favourite Albums, Their New House: House Of All Interviewed, Personal Anthems: An Interview With Heinali. I feel like an unresolved human being. I think doing this was really helpful and cathartic, says Saoudi. ISBN-13: 978-1474617840. It shouldnt be like this, I tell myself, I should care more than I do. I went to one the other day and I thought that was the best possible way young people could come back together after something like that. Share . Theres every kind of sentiment to be explored. Hed never had that much interest in electronic music before, but a couple of my mates who dressed like characters from The Matrix were real techno heads, so I thought Ill give it a go. It ended up being completely transformational. It was only ever going to be like that. Lias Saoudi Folk Ensemble play live at The Social W1 as part of the first evenings celebrating the launch of the epic FWF biography Ten Thousand Apologies co. This is a compendium thats the worlds first comprehensive book-length study of the scatological in art. The fact that its set in Sheffield somehow really adds to the pain. You can get in with a CMJ badge too (based on capacity). [21][22] Lennon co-produced their eponymous debut album, released in February 2018. Im in some sort of musical cul-de-sac at the moment Im either listening to ambient or Bob Dylan. That posture is kind of infinite., John Denver Take Me Home, Country Roads, It goes down well if you can hit what I call the leap of faith moment. Like Saul belongs in South London, but its impossible to put down roots here because of the money. Abject hopeless nihilism. During the first UK lockdown, Lias began contributing a series of unflinching autobiographical pieces entitledLife Beyond the Neutral Zoneto the online cultural hub, The Social Gathering. The world wide web became quite popular around the same time. Anyone willing to sweat nuts and bolts on stage like that, regardless of the underlying message, deserves our respect, and for that I duly salute them. Even for somebody like meeven for a hardcore cynic, it was difficult not to feel invigorated by that. I liked uppers and socialising and chasing girls around. On the night of the terrorist attack at the Bataclan in Paris in November 2015, when Fat White Family were performing at another venue in the city, we are told that Saul had commanded the rest of the band to stay in the dressing room, informing them, Its the safest place we can be. I would spend a half hour each morning recasting those absurd spikes only to be pilloried by the student body and excluded from classes by the staff. To find out more, click here. You just quietly curse the day you were born until its over, channel that self-despising energy, and then its the end, he says. Its the combination of the beat and the sex noises that make me want to dance. At high school in Cookstown my pocket money was spent on either blank video tapes - with which I would record my favourite films off the telly - or on CDs from the local music shop. And he is appalled by what he describes as the establishment of a state of self-surveillance. Ladies and Gentlemen, this then is Lias Saoudi. Lead singer of Fat White Family, Lias Saoudi, self-pens a Baker's Dozen of thirteen musical choices that map his early life to the present day, from Ireland to Scotland, Cambodia to Algeria, via dark country and the howling void. Their first proper video, U Instead Of Thought, was released last Summer, featuring Lias painted as a geisha, opening and closing a parasol in time with the tracks grubby beats. Lias Saoudi: I'm going back up to Sheffield for a week before Christmas to finish The Moonlandingz LP with Adrian and Dean. Given Saoudis history of provocation with Fat White Family, it might be wondered whether hes purposely looking to cause trouble by dressing as a geisha. Lias Saoudi: I read aboutthere was some stuff in this country about there being like a tracing app, stuff like that, and people having to have like the right verification on their phone before they can go to a festival. Shirtless, his dark hair tousled after a brisk walk across town, he rolled cigarettes and sipped coffee whilst answering questions with a right good grace. Who is he to deny these people a pride in their national identity?" PKM: He gets good lyrics out of that. I continued amassing a collection after moving to London at age 18 to study art, even adding a vinyl section to my library once the time was right. PS: theres a playlist of music referred to inGood Pop, Bad Pop you can get a sneak peekhere. I gave up on collecting records around 13 years ago. Like, always siding with the IRA. Retrieved 7 May 2021. What do you think concerts will be like when people are allowed to gather in larger groups? It just made all of that other stuff feel utterly tepid. ", Talbot also revealed that those comments did make him angry, "I do hold on to those grudges. It makes me angry. PKM: People are still in panic mode. Its been a long time coming, but you can now buy your pal/lover/offended party a subscription to Loud And Quiet, for any occasion or no occasion at all. By the time youve finished tinkering with them and fucking about with them you never want to hear from them ever again. The process of writing forced Saoudi to confront many of the conflicts and resentments he and his bandmates had avoided for years. I have a voice. "It's not even a good pun! Life Beyond the Neutral Zone - Lias Saoudi 03/04/2020 He would reveille at 7am, drink a strong coffee, take a bath, write until noon, luncheon, read for four hours, practice the flute for half an hour, go for a two hour walk, dine out, then take in a play or a show in town. Not a chance. Some music . Its the I belong bit, there can be no half-measures. Sarah Davachi plays incredibly sparse ambient stuff, all layered drones with electronic and acoustic elements, but really minimalist, subtle. Words by Lias Saoudi. It would be an insult to those guys to claim that I was a junkie. The racial hatred I encountered in the backwaters wasnt pathological, it was that of the animal suddenly forced into sharing its cage with some new and terrifying creature. Lias Saoudi sits down in the pub, takes a sip of Guinness and immediately starts sucking on a vape. Author: Adelle Stripe and Lias Saoudi. To me, that sounds like absolute hell. People have this illusion that we live in a liberal democracy, he says, but that ran out of steam quite a while ago and the world we live in is something much more akin to the one I experienced in China 12 years ago, only here people seem faintly more invested in the delusion that its anything other than a controlled society. If you dont like something, dont do it then.. Between them they had the entire back catalogue including all the Bootlegs. A Fat White Family concert is a portal; a door leading, not out of our present dimension, but more deeply into it than we would prefer to look. I also found I could no longer remember the names of anyone I was into, everything became kind of ephemeral. Founding members Nathan, Adamczewski and guitarist Adam Harmer had all developed serious addictions. As well as the unparalleled joy of keeping the publication alive, you'll receive benefits including exclusive editorial, podcasts, and specially-commissioned music by some of our favourite artists. If you love what we do, you can help tQ to continue bringing you the best in cultural criticism and new music by joining one of our subscription tiers. A dependency on streaming poured into the gaping hole left behind. Thats a long running project. I think that one thing with the writing that I realized, was that it was something that I could probably do, but in order to do it requires a completely different kind of discipline where Im not drinking or drugging at all. Whatever trick Bob had just pulled on me was a trick I had to learn, or at least try to. An artist has an ability to draw the line amid the chaos and mess of human experience and thats the end of it, he says, glass back down on the table. Their unsparing lyrics are often an expose of our best and worst qualities as a species, intermingled so closely that good and bad and right and wrong become hopelessly confused. Macho Music by Peter Gordon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbeJKaAKLos, 4. It was really nice to just let Decius breathe, says Quinn. PKM: Lets talk about your prose writing a bit: Life Beyond the Neutral Zone, was wonderful to read, I had so much fun reading that. I thought now would be a great time for everybody to rewatch Threads, the Sheffield-based Armageddon, now that the cold war is, well, back in fashion. The band were supposed to do an ultra-late-night set at Baby's All Right but it ended up not happening. Their lead singer talks to Rupert Hawksley about their darkest days, and why Elvis Costello has capitulated to the controlled society, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Writing during lockdown, says Saoudi, was the first time Id been truly happy creatively since I was a teenager. Musician Lias Saoudi discusses with Ivan six things which should be better known. Read previous Sweet 16 columns with the likes of Beirut, Riz Ahmed, Johnny Marr, Shirley Manson, Matt Helders and many more. Its arguably the greatest suicide note in musical history listening to the lyrics, the conclusion you draw is inevitable, meaning he must have had that in mind, that he was on the way out. Just go down to New Malden and howl some falsetto over a beat for a few hours. I cant stop listening to it. If youve got a bod like Keir Starmer, whos kind of like Tory in red clothing, then the powers that be might swing that way, like they did for Tony Blair. [17] Writing in the Observer, Miranda Sawyer described it as 'the story of a band thats always on the brink: of stardom, of madness, of brilliance, of disgrace.' For news and discussion about South-Londons finest. To find out more, click here. Lias Saoudi: Most of them are in panic mode. Albums became predictably much less relevant. Hes not proud of it but at the same time, you know, it was an incredibly bleak period for him. Meanwhile, Fat White Family, whose sound owes more than a little to The Fall, have a new single that tips their hat to that band's famous frontman. ^ Campbell, Brian (19 February 2016). The book pulls no punches. . Lias Saoudi: Im glad thats the way I am. What does the collecting impulse say about us humans? was dog shit; that I was into music with guitars. On IDLES bit, there can be no half-measures Bob had just pulled on me was a kind shit. February 2018 that accent with my mum, so theres an inherent innocence all... 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